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Fixed! Closetside (talk) 19:13, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Responding to edit requests

Hello Closetside, welcome to Wikipedia! I see you have recently been active in responding to semi-protected edit requests, which has been super helpful, so thank you!

I wanted to reach out to suggest you read through the page section related to responding to edit requests, which has some great information about the process of responding. In particular, it would be helpful for you to mark the request as 'answered' when you respond (whether or not the requested edit is implemented).

You may also find Terasail's Edit Request Tool useful when responding to edit requests.

Happy editing!

--Pinchme123 (talk) 00:51, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

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Selfstudier (talk) 10:50, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

1R breach

Diff 1 Diff 2 I'll let it go this time since you are a new editor. Selfstudier (talk) 12:26, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

If I’m not mistaken, I self-reverted. Self-reverting is exempted from the 3RR and the 1RR. Closetside (talk) 14:25, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Diff

You are again in breach of 1R (removed "allegedly" twice). Kindly self revert. Thank you. Selfstudier (talk) 14:58, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

I believe "according to Israel" is enough to establish a claim by Israel that is contested. If you disagree with me, I will revert and transfer this discussion to the talk page. Closetside (talk) 15:24, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

I have already asked you to self revert, kindly do so. Selfstudier (talk) 15:34, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

I reintroduced the language of "allege" into that portion of the article. We don't have to, and shouldn't, copy sources word for word. Closetside (talk) 15:36, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Notice of Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding a possible violation of an Arbitration Committee decision. The thread is Closetside. Thank you. Selfstudier (talk) 15:40, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Al Aqsa

Fyi, originally I wrote Al Aqsa which you reverted (I let it go but it is the very last time that I will let this kind of editing stand). Had you troubled to follow the link, you would have seen that "Al-Aqṣā (Arabic: الأقصى) or al-Masjid al-Aqṣā (Arabic: المسجد الأقصى) is the whole compound of Islamic religious buildings that sit atop the Temple Mount" and your assertion here wrong.

If you continue with this habit of making pointless POV edits to my edits, we will find ourselves back at AE once again. I suggest you desist. Selfstudier (talk) 23:17, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

If I’m not mistaken, WP:1RR and WP:3RR explicitly limit only the undoing and reverting of another editor’s edits. By adding the word “compound,” I didn’t undo your edit either physically or semantically, rather I disambiguated it.

The Al Aqsa article itself lists several examples of the use of the term “Al Aqsa mosque compound” for the purpose of disambiguation.

You can remove the word “mosque” from the disambiguated phrase without losing any clarity, which I did in my edit in question. Heck, Al Jazeera uses the term “Al Aqsa compound” quite often.

After incorrectly applying 1RR to self-reverting, I was skeptical of the time when you correctly pointed out I violated 1RR. After another incorrect application, I’m skeptical once again. I understand that as a new editor I will probably inadvertently violate a rule and experienced editors should point out such violations. Due to your track record, I would prefer if you pointed out my violations through a 3rd party. Longhornsg (talk · contribs) offered to guide me as I gain experience editing, which I accepted. I suggest in the future, you go tell them to warn me when you believe I violated a rule. If they concur with you, I will accept their warning and not perform a similar violation in the future.

Despite this and our divergent views in the I/P area, I respect you as an editor. I look forward to working together to improve the I/P coverage on Wikipedia in the future. Closetside (talk) 12:34, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

My comment relates to POV pushing and WP:HOUNDING, and to your incorrect edit summary, not 1R. Most of your recent editing consists of edits to my edits. Try editing some other articles, better still, try creating one or two of your own. Selfstudier (talk) 12:39, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Hello

Hi @Closetside, thanks for your willingness to be an editor to Wikipedia. As you've recently seen, the I/P area is fraught with byzantine rules and eagle-eyed editors (for good reason), so it's important to ensure that you are abiding by the rules of the road if you wish to continue editing in that area of the encyclopedia. I understand that you may have good intentions, but make sure to stick to what's in WP:RS and avoid editorializing or inserting interpretation that is not in the RS, unless you're able to reach consensus on the article's talk page. If you would like a second opinion on edits, happy to help to ensure you stay on the straight and narrow. Longhornsg (talk) 05:48, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll definitely be needing guidance sometimes as I learn the ropes in the I/P area. Closetside (talk) 00:55, 24 September 2023 (UTC)