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::::::Yeah procedurally this removal was correct. It doesn't follow the spirit of the law in my opinion, as admin actions should definitely count towards number of edits given it shows a users activity, but the removal of rights here on meta was done correctly. - [[User:Kippenvlees1|Kippenvlees1]] ([[User talk:Kippenvlees1|talk]]) 21:37, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
::::::Yeah procedurally this removal was correct. It doesn't follow the spirit of the law in my opinion, as admin actions should definitely count towards number of edits given it shows a users activity, but the removal of rights here on meta was done correctly. - [[User:Kippenvlees1|Kippenvlees1]] ([[User talk:Kippenvlees1|talk]]) 21:37, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
:::::::I think we should close the meta discussion here and continue this discussion locally. [[User:Daniuu|Daniuu]] ([[User talk:Daniuu|talk]]) 21:42, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
:::::::I think we should close the meta discussion here and continue this discussion locally. [[User:Daniuu|Daniuu]] ([[User talk:Daniuu|talk]]) 21:42, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

:At least we have [https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Regelingen_rond_moderatoren/Activiteit_moderatoren&oldid=60817640 this page] giving the number of edits of each administrator when they go below 500 edits per year. That is a clear warning when your names appears there. And as far as I can judge, he went under the norm at 10-1-2022. [[User:The Banner|The Banner]] ([[User talk:The Banner|talk]]) 23:03, 12 January 2022 (UTC)


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This page is for requests to have stewards grant or revoke administrator, bureaucrat, checkuser, and oversight rights on Wikimedia projects which do not have a local permissions procedure.

Old sections are archived. The list of archives is below.

  • Requests for bot flags are handled at SRB, and requests for global permissions are handled at SRGP.
  • If you are requesting adminship or bureaucratship, and your wiki has a local bureaucrat, submit your request to that user or to the relevant local request page (index).
  • For urgent requests, such as to combat large-scale vandalism on a small wiki, contact a steward in the #wikimedia-stewardsconnect IRC channel. In emergencies, type !steward in the channel to get the attention of stewards. Otherwise, you can type @steward for non-urgent help.

Other than requests to remove your own access or emergencies, please only make requests here after gaining the on-wiki approval of your local community.

Quick navigation: Administrator | Interface administrator | Bureaucrat | CheckUser | Oversight | Removal of access | Miscellaneous | Global permissions

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Cross-wiki requests
Meta-Wiki requests

Using this page

1. Place the following code at the bottom of the appropriate section below: 

==== Username@xxproject ====
{{sr-request
 |status    = <!-- don't change this line -->
 |domain    = <!-- such as en.wikibooks -->
 |user name = 
 |discussion= 
}}
(your remarks) ~~~~

2. Fill in the values:

  • domain: the wiki's URL domain (like "ex.wikipedia" or "meta.wikimedia").
  • user name: the name of the user whose rights are to be changed (like "Exampleuser"). In case you're requesting access for multiple bots, leave this field blank and give a list of these bots in your remarks
  • discussion: a link to the local vote or discussion about the rights change (for example, "[[ex:Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship#ExampleUser]]"). This should normally be for at least one week, but no more than three weeks (if so, you'll need to restart the process).

3. If anything is missing from your request, a steward will request more information.

Confirmation of signing confidentiality agreement

Certain permissions (notably CheckUser and Oversight) additionally require users to sign a confidentiality agreement. Users requesting these permissions must make a request below, and must also sign the confidentiality agreement with the Wikimedia Foundation. The request is placed on hold temporarily, until the receipt has been formally confirmed by the Office.

Requests

COPY THE FOLLOWING CODE to the bottom of the appropriate section below: 

==== User name@xxproject ====
{{sr-request
 |status    = <!--don't change this line-->
 |domain    =
 |user name =
 |discussion= 
}}

Administrator access

See Administrator for information about this user group.

  • MediaWiki interface translations are done at translatewiki.net. Please do not request administrator access solely for that purpose; your request will be declined.
  • Stewards: Please use {{Systmp}} for approved temporary requests.

Requests for removal of access should be posted at the section below.

Please start a new discussion about requesting the permission on the local village pump, administrators' noticeboard or a designated page for requesting permissions each time you request or renew adminship.

  • Discussions should be open for seven days. Please request adminship here seven days after discussions started. This page is not the place for any discussions or votes. (For wikis with few active users, it is OK to have no comments.)
  • If you only want adminship for specific tasks, please state for how long and for which tasks you need it. Otherwise stewards will decide whether to assign permanent adminship and the duration of adminship. See Steward requests/Permissions/Minimum voting requirements.

Daramlagon@bclwiktionary

Status:    On hold

Hello, I recently received a grant funding from the WMF to head a campaign (Dec 2021-July 2022) for the Bikol Wiktionary. In this regard I would like to request administrator and interface administrator access to apply necessary changes and updates in the said platform especially in the language codes, spelling guide, diacritics, introductory grammar, entry organization, and audio. These were based on suggestions and feedback of my fellow editors (see discussion page). My goal is to make the platform more systematic, accessible, economical, and collaborative. This will also ensure a smoother and a more active participation from editors (both old and new) and readers which I have invited to participate in the 6-month campaign to revitalize Bikol Wiktionary. Thank you and stay safe. Daramlagon (talk) 15:57, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 On hold until 2022-01-10 --Martin Urbanec (talk) 17:13, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AyourAchtouk@shiwikipedia

Status:    On hold

Hello there, I've been an admin in this wikipedia for 6 month now and my admin acess will expire 13/01/2022. I would like to be admin again so that I can work more on the project and improve it. --AyourAchtouk (talk) 16:20, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

(non-steward comment) @AyourAchtouk: Per above, [p]lease start a new discussion... each time you request or renew adminship. Do you have a link to a such discussion? NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 16:26, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh. The discussion is Here. Thank you --AyourAchtouk (talk) 16:31, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It have just started a few minutes ago so this request will be marked as  On hold by a steward. Please come back after 7 days. Thank you. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 16:34, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I assume there's no local bureaucrats on shiwikipedia? In any case, I'm wondering if this is more of a Steward convention to grant sysop for terms of only one year, and if this is further ellucidated somewhere? Dmehus (talk) 16:47, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Dmehus: See /Minimum voting requirements. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 18:18, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thanks. Interesting. That's great. :) Dmehus (talk) 22:06, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 On hold until 2022-01-10. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 17:12, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kylaix@ru.wikibooks

Status:    In progress

We need a final decision. --Erokhin (talk) 10:00, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Interface administrator access

See Interface admin for information about this user group.

  • If you are requesting adminship and the interface admin at the same time, you can file one request in administrator section and state you want interface adminship as well.
  • MediaWiki interface translations are done at translatewiki.net. Please do not request interface administrator access solely for that purpose; your request will be declined.
  • Since the end of 2018, all interface administrators are required to have two-factor authentication (2FA) enabled. Please, enable it before posting your request here.
  • Stewards: Please use {{Systmp}} for approved temporary requests.

Requests for removal of access should be posted at the section below.

Please start a new discussion about requesting the permission on the local village pump, administrators' noticeboard or a designated page for requesting permissions each time you request or renew interface adminship.

  • Discussions should be open for seven days. Please request interface adminship here seven days after discussions started. This page is not the place for any discussions or votes. (For wikis with few active users, it is OK to have no comments.)
  • If you only want interface adminship for specific tasks, please state for how long and for which tasks you need it. Otherwise stewards will decide whether to assign permanent interface adminship and the duration of interface adminship. See Steward requests/Permissions/Minimum voting requirements.

Bureaucrat access

See Bureaucrat for information about this user group.
  • In principle, requests for temporary bureaucrat access are not granted.
  • A small project does not need bureaucrats. Currently whether a promotion is valid or not is decided by stewards. See here for a guideline.

Requests for removal of access should be posted at the section below.

CheckUser access

See CheckUser policy for information about this user group and the policy governing the use of this tool.
  • To request CheckUser information, see Steward requests/Checkuser. This is the place to request CheckUser access.
  • One-time CheckUser access is not permitted and temporary access is only used by Stewards or when the mandate of the CUs has an expiry date specified in local policies.

صالح@arwiki

Status:    On hold

--جار الله (talk) 10:53, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 On hold pending on the candidate's signature of the confidentiality agreement for nonpublic information (see instructions) and Wikimedia Foundation confirmation of the same. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:54, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @جار الله, this is a reminder that you need to sign the confidentiality agreement before being assigned checkuser right. Best, Martin Urbanec (talk) 17:07, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Martin Urbanec @صالح needs to sign the confidentiality agreement and he told me that he did. Best. جار الله (talk) 18:03, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, thought it was a self-requested permission (I'm not very good at reading Arabic). It's great the agreement is signed. Let's wait for the noticeboard update then. Martin Urbanec (talk) 18:54, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oversight access

See Oversight policy for information about this user group and the policy governing the use of this tool.
  • To request to have content oversighted, ask for a steward in #wikimedia-stewardsconnect and contact a steward privately. This section is for requesting access to the Oversight tool.
  • For contact details about oversighters across the wikis, refer to this page.
  • Note that temporary Oversight access is not permitted and temporary status is only used by Stewards .
  • When a new user is assigned to this group, please add them to this list.

Miscellaneous requests

Requests for permissions that don't fit in other sections belong here. Importer rights can be granted on most wikis by stewards only. Please gain local community consensus before posting a new section here.

Note that the following types of permissions requests belong on separate pages:

  • SRB — Local or global bot status
  • SRGP — Global permissions

Removal of access

  • If you're requesting the removal of your own permissions, make sure you're logged in to your account. If you have multiple flags, specify which you want removed. Stewards may delay your request a short time to ensure you have time to rethink your request (see previous discussion on 24 hour delays); the rights will not be restored by stewards once they are removed.
  • To request the removal of another user's permissions, you must gain consensus on the local wiki first. When there is community consensus that the user's access should be removed, provide a link to the discussion, with a brief explanation of the reason for the request, and summarize the results of discussion. However, as bureaucrats of some wikis may remove users from the administrator or bureaucrat group, please see also a separate list of these specific wikis.
  • To request the removal of another user's permissions for inactivity, link to your local inactivity policy. If your site does not have inactivity policy, the global policy Admin activity review applies.
  • See the instructions above for adding new requests. Please post new requests at the bottom of the section.

Wutsje@nl.wikipedia

Status:    Done

Please remove admin status. Wutsje has been already informed. The Banner (talk) 16:20, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done with many thanks for his work. RadiX∞ 17:22, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@RadiX: I oppose this removal of rights, since this admin is clearly still active, and it is generally agreed upon to warn the admin on his or her talkpage before the request for removal of rights because of inactivity, especially in cases like these. This admin was not warned in a timely manner. Ciell (talk) 19:19, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ciell: I just checked the local policy that The Banner had placed above and his number of edits. I am not aware of the procedure you mentioned here. Would it be possible for any local bureaucrat to clarify this? No problem on my part if it is necessary to reassign the permission. :) RadiX∞ 19:56, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Btw, it seems more like a borderline case to me, depending on what interval you consider for inactivity. Given today´s scenario, it meets the local 'inactivity policy'. However, if a mistake has occurred, I can surely undo it. RadiX∞ 20:11, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ciell As an independent steward, I decided to review this case. Between 2021-01-12 – 2022-01-11 (both dates inclusive, delimited by UTC midnight), they made 247 live edits and zero deleted edits (which is less than the required 250 edits). While this might seem harsh (especially since Wutsje didn't meet the criteria just by a few of edits), AFAICS, the local policy does not impose any other requirements (such as, a notification) besides the number of edits. As such, I believe the policy has been interpreted and executed correctly. That said, any local bureaucrat can reinstate the permissions if they believe that's the correct course of action. Martin Urbanec (talk) 20:14, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
True this is not reflected in the local policy, but it is common courtesy: the Dutch Wikipedia has a small community and giving someone a heads up is considered only a small thing. The Banner has been asked before to not act upon this policy in such a strict way. Maybe @Kippenvlees1: or @Natuur12: can help, an I'll propose to include this in the policy either way. So sorry to lose one of our few night owl-admins with this rights removal. Ciell (talk) 20:39, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ciell: I do agree that you state that it's common courtesy to notify the concerning admin. In this particular case, we however had a situation in which Wutsje had plenty of edits in the few days before he would dive under the required 250 edits. To put it briefly, Wutsje fell under the 250 edits rather quickly (and I'll be honest, I was also a bit supprised when I first noticed that). As a disclaimer, I sent Wutsje an email earlier today asking whether he was doing well (no need to explain that explicit question to you I think, Ciell) and notified him that he was getting close to the 250 edits. Now, it appears that Wutsje fell just below the 250 edits (a matter of a few hours). So, purely from a technical point of view and strictly interpreting the policy ("dura lex sed lex"), I think The Banner was right in posting this request (and the subsequent removal of rights by RadiX). However, the strict technical bits of a policy are far from the only factors that should be considered in cases like this. Especially not if I look at the fact that Wutsje made 600+ admin actions in the same timeframe etc. and was getting active again after a break (note: if the request would have been posted a few hours later, the 250 edit requirement would have been satisfied again). In that respect, I agree with Ceill that this request was overenthousiastic to say the least. It is sad to see one of the more experienced admins of the Dutch Wikipedia losing their permissions in such a way (and this could perhaps be an indication that we should make some tweaks to our inactivity policy as well). Daniuu (talk) 21:03, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
From a procedural standpoint, The Banner is correct. A talk page notification isn't mandatory and the community merely requests 250 edits as a sign of sufficient activity and has never counted admin actions as an edit. Maybe our process is flawed, but the process is community sanctioned. Natuur12 (talk) 21:15, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah procedurally this removal was correct. It doesn't follow the spirit of the law in my opinion, as admin actions should definitely count towards number of edits given it shows a users activity, but the removal of rights here on meta was done correctly. - Kippenvlees1 (talk) 21:37, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think we should close the meta discussion here and continue this discussion locally. Daniuu (talk) 21:42, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
At least we have this page giving the number of edits of each administrator when they go below 500 edits per year. That is a clear warning when your names appears there. And as far as I can judge, he went under the norm at 10-1-2022. The Banner (talk) 23:03, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See also

Cooperation requests for: comments (local) (global) · translation

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